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25.05.2009 (1093 Days Ago)
TitleOld Whalley Range
CountryGB
CityManchester
Zip/Postal CodeM16 0BG
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News Photos Memories History - share your Whalley Range memories here...........

 

 

 

 

Link to information about golfing in Manley Park

http://www.mangc.co.uk/history.htm

 

Whalley Range from 1926 (year of the General Strike) to end of World War II

 Recorded by Vera Llanwarne 9th Sept 2008 

 ·   Corner of Withington Rd & Carlton Rd was Sir William Coates’ House (now Crystal House flats)

 ·       Next, West End Cinema later changed to Odeon, it had a cafe and a small dance floor.

 ·       Corner of Withington Rd & Dudley Rd was The Embassy Garage and over the garage was The Embassy Dance Hall

 ·       The Co-op Grocers

 ·       The co-op Butchers

 ·       The Co-op Hall used for Parties, Weddings and Dances

 ·       Painters and Decorators (Vera’s Family business)

 ·       Tailors

 ·       Cigarette and Tobacco

 ·       Martins bank

 ·       Drapers and later had a Post Office in one half

 ·       High Class Bakers

 ·       Sweet Shop

 ·       Dairy and provisions

 ·       Hardware Shop

·       George Mason Grocers

·       Seymour Mead Grocers

·       Seymour Mead Butchers 

May Rd

·       Corner of May Rd & Withington Rd – Simpson’s Hotel

·       Then various small Shops

·       Red Cross House (later Nello James)

·       More Houses 

Other side of Withington Rd

·       Wine Shop

·       Cake Shop

·       Green grocery

·       John Denison Butchers

·       Fullers Drapers

·       Rhodes Paper Shop on corner of Yarburgh St also selling stationary and glassware 

Yarburgh St

·       Chemist

·       Dress Shop

·       Haberdashers’

·       Radio Shop

·       Next a very old house used as the Post Office, pulled down to build Pub (recently pulled down). 

 

 Whalley Range 1948 

·       2  Carlton Rd St. Margaret’s Remembrance Hall

·       Withington Rd - Odeon  Cinema

·       Withington Rd & Mayfield Rd – Walls depot for ice cream bicycles to fill up, now Netto

·       Withington Rd & Mayfield Rd other corner Glengarry Hotel Withington Rd

·       115  T.E Giles, Green Grocer

·       114  Alexandra Creamery

·       117  Butcher – John Denison

·       17  Henry Kirby & Son, Practical Sanitary Plumbers  

 

Whalley Range 1960 

Withington Rd

·       102  Estate Agent

·       108  Range Outfitter & Post Office

·       119  Copeland Chemist

·       134  Sweets & Stationary

·       116  Newsagent & Tobacconist

·       122 Simpson’s Hotel 

 

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Beverly  Whalley Range Resident:

 

I was a member of the club in the 80s and was a regular visitor also worked behind the bar on occasions. The upstairs rooms were used for rehearsal space by some of the bands that played there similar to how its used now. It was great to go out and see live bands and on one occasion the club had a halloween party which was brill. Sadly the neighbours complained about the noise so the bands stopped. Its good the clubs being used again for local talent after such a long time Whalley Range feels like a community again.Nice one,maybe have another fancydress.

Beverly  Whalley Range

 

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John Brien shares old Carlton Club memories:

There was a time when there was no heat or music at the club.

A little mouse lived at the building – only one.

It would come out from the stage, run along the side - and at the bar it would turn to look at everyone, as if to thank us for the food on the floor - then it went out of the door.

It might have been Phil Crawford – he was an old member of the club.

He was a local dentist who played snooker - sometimes the ghost of Phil Crawford can be heard banging his cue against the club floor as he always used to do before he passed away.

My dog, Shadow, will not go down the bottom end of the snooker room – it’s haunted!

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“I arrived in Manchester on a beautiful day in Spring - in the early seventies – My husband had accepted a job at Withington Hospital and Moss Care provided us with a home in Whalley Range . I fell in love with Whalley Range immediately; I think the trees won me over. Before moving to Manchester I had lived in North London, Halifax and Oldham for a brief period. I am happy that I made the decision to stay in this area, I have been actively involved in Community Arts and other activities and have come to know and love the many diverse people who live and work in the Community and although I love my Country of birth, Barbados, Whalley Range has become my home.

I have had the opportunity to travel throughout the UK and always look forward to returning to my home in the Range. I like the fact that everything is in reasonable travelling distance and there is a diverse range of Cultural Activities which enriches the quality of life for all" Abina, Resident

 

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Crimsworth Memories (Manley Park pre-school annexe)



What can I say?

There from 1957 to 1959. Naps in the afternoon (they are bringing that back now too). The cots were rough material and very itchy.

The cod liver oil was always given after something else that was quite pleasant to taste (some help please).

Rusks (I don't mean Farley either) were my favourite.

I was a ladder and those draw string bags and ALL THOSE TYRES we played with. Sports days were the best as well as roly poly down the "HILL". It was probably only a small mound but at the time felt like a mountain. The climbing frame and playing "I'm the king of the castle"

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In 1953 a sundial was placed in the grounds and a box with momentos was buried underneath, my brother Jim Somerville was part of the team but can’t remember the name of his teacher, however photos were taken and if anyone has info on how to obtain one I would be grateful.
My teacher was Mr Lloyd and a real terror - happy days!!

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(St Margaret’s memory)

 

Miss Smith

Miss Smith taught us to do copperplate handwriting with dip in pens copying from fifty year old exercise books which had been done by pupils around 1900. She "lined " the blackboard ready to take her lovely script before we entered the class. She had siver white cropped hair, wore finely knitted forties jumpers and tweed skirts and she never wore socks with her sandals. She was always tanned and "healthy" and when she ran the country dancing group she bounced on the balls of her feet. This in the middle of some extreme poverty in Moss Side , she aimed to lift our spirits.

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Miss Downey

Miss Downey was an inspiration. She made Art Lessons an adventure and here I am 50 yrs later a painter in Cornwall. She lived in Sale and I even remember her birthday October 30th.
She married whilst teaching at St. Margaret's Moss Side.
I have some funny memories of those lessons just after the War, murals on the peeling distemper, the jelly crystals, learning to knit, dip in pens and the writing competitions.
Miss Downey remembered with affection.

 

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Shelagh Delaney

Shelagh Delaney wrote "A Taste Of Honey". She attended WR during the 1950's, I think, or maybe even the late 40's. She was never referred to much as an "old girl" during my time at Whalley Range High  during the 1960's though, probably because the subject matter of the play may have been deemed unsuitable for young gals!

 

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 The Manchester Golf Club - In October 1882 the club's eight founder members played their first round of golf over a small nine-hole course of some 1856 yards at Manley Park in the Whalley Range district of Manchester. They had no clubhouse and had to share the land with the farmer's cattle and sheep. The inevitable encroachment of urbanisation compelled the club to find a new location 

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Avis Bunnage attended Manley Park Municipal School and Chorlton Central School in Manchester.

 

She formerly worked as a secretary and nursery teacher before deciding to switch careers and become an actress.

 

She gained stage experience in rep and made her first professional appearance at Chorlton Rep Theatre in Manchester in 1947.

 

Her first London appearance was with the Theatre Workshop Company in 1952.

 

She returned to that company many times during her long career.

 

In addition, she acted in other productions in Zurich, Moscow and America.

Her theatre work included 'An Enemy of the People', 'The Good Soldier Schweik','Mother Courage', 'The Italian Straw Hat', 'Captain Brassbound's Conversation', 'The Playboy of the Western World', 'A Taste of Honey', 'The Hostage', 'Ned Kelly', 'Fings Ain't Wot They Use T'Be', 'Henry VI', 'Fiddler on the Roof', 'Sweeney Todd', 'The Rivals', 'Billy' and the title role of Marie Lloyd in 'The Marie Lloyd Story'.

 Avis was married to Derek Orchard.

 

 

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  Manley Park was built as a magnificent estate in the 1860s for Samuel Mendel, one of Manchester's foremost cotton traders. Originally, when it’s superb park and pleasure gardens were open to the public they consisted of over 80 acres with ornamental lakes and reputedly the country's finest orchid collection.
After Samuel Mendel lost his fortune, the park was sold off piecemeal for development and his fine house was abandoned and eventually demolished. In its heyday it was regarded as one of the most magnificent in the north of England.
 

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FILE - Probate copy of will of Jas. Thos. Blair of Whalley House, Whalley Range, Director of Robert Barbour and Brother Ltd., of Manchester, merchants, 14 June 1915. - ref. M294 16/1/1  - date: 1917


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Brother Geo. Beatson Blair of Whalley Range, and cousin Lt. Col. Alf Ernest Le Rossignol of London to be executors and general trustees.


Confirms agreement of self and Geo. B. Blair with Robt. Barbour and Brother Ltd., 1 Jan. 1909, when Company purchased goodwill and assets of Robt. Barbour and Bro., and part of purchase money was left as a loan to the Company. Loan to be repaid within five years.

Oil paintings and watercolours, some by Turner, bequeathed to Manchester City Art Gallery.


His share in Whalley House to brothers Geo. B. and Alex. Campbell Blair.


Shares in Robt. Barbour and Brother Ltd. and pecuniary legacies to various relatives.


Pecuniary legacies to various servants.
£1,000 to the Elders and Deacons of Grosvenor Squ. Presbyterian church, Manchester, to be invested for the upkeep of the church.


£500 to same to be invested for the use of Booth St. Mission at St. Andrew's Hall, Booth St.

£300 to same for The Barbour Bequest Poor Fund, and £100 for The Grosvenor Squ. Presbyterian Church Mission Poor Fund.

Other bequests to Presbyterian charities.
£2000 to Manchester Royal Infirmary, £1000 to St. Mary's Hospitals, Manchester, £1000 to the Ancoats Hospital and Ardwick and Ancoats Dispensary, £1000 to the Boys' and Girls' Refuges and Homes and Childrens' Aid Soc., Strangeways, £500 to Y.M.C.A., Manchester, £500 to Manchester City Mission, and £500 to the Burns Scott Memorial Fund.


Residue of real and personal estate to Geo. Beatson Blair and Rev. Alex. MacKinnon, as Charity Trustees, to invest in a charity to relieve the distress of poor persons, particularly aged poor, in Manchester and Salford.


J.T. Blair died 19 Feb. 1917.
Will proved 7 Aug. 1917
Estate of £155, 537.

 

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MY WHALLEY RANGE

I don't remember exactly when we moved to 28 Wellington Road, Whalley Range, Manchester.  I guess it was around 1964. 

 My Dad was a policeman with the Manchester City Police Force and 28 and 26 Wellington Road were police houses. 

 They were two small semi's in a road of large houses. The road was full of pot holes that were never repaired the whole time we lived there.

We had only just moved in when we were told that a man had been stabbed to death at the gate of the house next door! 

The garden at the back of the houses was a field with no dividing wall.  Next door lived another policeman, Jack O'Neil, his wife Maryl, their daughter, Karen and their Boxer dog, Dresser.

Karen and I collected Sindy dolls and  their accessories and played for hours with them.

Our favourite group was the Monkees and we were both in love with Davy Jones.

I was the eldest of four children, Me, born in 1958, Simon in 1959, Joanne in 1963 and Amanda came along in 1966. 

 Mum was working for Manchester Social Services and during the three years we lived there, lots of children came and went. 

 I remember Sylvia and Yvonne Wilkinson the most because they stayed with us for over two years and became part of our family

We all used to walk to school, up College Road on our own to Manley Park Junior School. 

Mrs Duke, Mrs Bullock and Mr Lloyd, the headmaster are the only ones I can remember. 

Also Mr Bradley the caretaker because  Terry Hayes and I used to sometimes stay behind school to help him..  Although I can't remember exactly what it was we did and was only reminded of this when I linked up with Terry through Friends Reunited. 

Mr Lloyd was a tall bald headed man who always wore a dark tweed suit. 

He was a stickler for rules and some of the things he taught me I still do today. 

 Clean fingernails - he would make us all hold out our hands for inspection. We must never hold a book by the spine, just flat on our hand. 

Knives were never put in the mouth and one had to hold it on the top never underneath like a spoon. 

And when we had finished they had to go together on the plate..  I remember him wandering up and down the dining room making sure we were all eating correctly.

After school on a Wednesday was the Treasure Hunters Club.  I really used to enjoy this, but somehow cannot remember now what it was we used to do!!

At the back of the school there were lots of very big Rhododendron bushes and I enjoyed being allowed out among them, usually for school photographs. 

At playtime the teacher would blow a whistle and all the children had to stop and stand still, another whistle meant we were to join our class lines.

Playtime really was that and we used to play an assortment of games in the yard.  Skipping was popular with the girls, a large skipping rope, a line of girls and songs that meant we could all have our turn. 

 I used to enjoy French Skipping too.  Lots of elastic bands put together so that they could go round the legs of the two girls at either end and one could skip in the middle by jumping on and off the bands and drawing them together, in, out, on and together.   It got harder with each cycle as the bands started on the ankles and moved up to the knees and then to the thighs. There were lots of skipping songs.

Another game was to put a tennis ball in a stocking and with your back to the wall and all your limbs spread to bounce the ball between each of your legs, arms and either side of your head while singing a song.  Or two-a-balls against a wall.

There were other energetic games that had us running around the yard chasing each other.  

The children I remember from my school are: Marilyn and Rudy Gibb, Terry Hayes, Hughie Brock, Carolyn Davies, John Burke, Margaret Jackson, Shawn, Pauline Smith, Dorothy Taylor, Paul Houston, and Michelle Rose. 

I thought I remembered more than that, but I suppose it was a long time ago!! 

Marilyn and Rudy used to go to Crimsworth pre school. 

Rudy used to kick me under table when the teacher wasn't looking! 

Marilyn was double jointed and could bend over backwards and grab her ankles. 

Pauline Smith was a natural leader and always had a gang of girls round her to do her bidding, I was very fond of Pauline. 

 Years later we met up in secondary school and she always said she wanted to be a nurse.  

On Withington Road, was The Bon Bon, our local sweetshop, Simon and I used to run gleefully with our shilling (12 pennies) spends and buy 12 Spanish which were Basset's hard liquorice sticks. 

Sometimes we would put them in  a glass of water and stirred the sticks in it until the water became murky and we would then drink our Spanish juice

Next door to that was a grocer's shop, possibly called Murphys, I recall shopping for my mother and an old lady came out of the shop and fell over. 

 I helped her to her feet and she told me I was very kind.

There were three or four other shops after that, but I don't recall what they were.  Further down the road was Brooks's Bar.

 It was a special place, a place where people used to meet and it was the bus terminus too. 

 Our dentist, Mr Mintz  had a practice in a old house and we regularly and had fillings with no needles! 

Then the Imperial picture house and happy memories of Saturday afternoon matinee shows also come to mind..  Cowboy films where the kids used to cheer for the goodys and boo the baddies. 

 I also remember going to watch Thunderbirds and Hud, the baddy, getting his foot caught between two metal bars which slowly began to crush it.  That image disturbed me for a long time.

Alexander Park was at the bottom of the road and we went to play on the swings or wandered around the lake or stared in awe at the big green houses where the large exotic plants grew. 

On a Sunday like other families, we would took a picnic and spread our blankets on the grass enjoying the sun and long afternoons. 

Once a year the CCC would come. That stood for Children's Christian Crusade.  They would erect large white tents and all the local children would go and we would play games outside and then go into the tents to sing.

If Your Happy and You Know It, Clap Your Hands, was one of the songs and when ever I hear it today it reminds me of those days.

My Mum would take me shopping along Alexander Road. 

Each side of the road were full of shops and we used to go in everyone!  Occasionally we went further a field and shopped down Longsight  and to the market on Dickenson Road. 

Saturday afternoon Mum and I went to town and into Lewis's, Dad would stay at home and make the tea, always salad with tinned fruit afterwards, Doctor Who on the television.

Across the road from us in one of the big houses which was converted to flats, lived Simon's friend John Hawkins.

I recall that he used to use the F word a lot.  We had never heard of it till then and he seemed so daring. 

He had curly strawberry blonde hair and lived with 'Edna' and his Mum Carol used to come back sometimes, I don't know what their arrangement was. 

Carol, to me was a typical 60's girl.  Peaked cap, mini skirt and boots.  She used to drive a Triumph Herald soft top and would take us a ride in it.

It was wonderful being able to feel the wind in our faces as we drove.  She had a Turkish boyfriend at one stage and he would bring us biscuits. 

For years we knew them as Turkish biscuits and only later realised they were actually fig biscuits!

 

Joanne had a friend called Debbie who also lived in the same house.  She had a brother called Peter.  I remember him being 'big' and used to frighten us. 

 He probably was just taller than us.  He used to like whacking us with the side of his hand.  I went on the bus for the first time without my Mum and Dad with him and John and Simon. 

I don't know where we were going but I remember watching him pay three pence to the conductor for our fare.

Up at the end of the road on the corner a big house that belonged to Moira. The large back garden was dug out in runs, they were to be the foundations for a building that was never built. 

It was a great place to play as we ran up and down those ruts.  In the basement flat lived Jacqueline, a little girl with jet black hair and enormous eyes. 

She lived with her mother and was perhaps slightly younger than Joanne, my sister.  Her Mum used to give her Buttercup syrup on a desert spoon and if I was there I'd have some too..

Next door to Moira was a house that was run down.  We would go and play in the basement and above lived a man who said he was a real cowboy. 

 I made myself a little house in the basement and was so proud of it until the owner came and ordered me out!

The Kelly family lived near Moira's house, there was Francis, the youngest and his sisters Bernadette and Josephine and they had an older brother called Kieran. 

Bernadette and Josephine used to go horse riding and I would accompany them over to a stables in Unsworth near Bury.  It was my first introduction to horses and I taught myself to ride through trial and error.

We had a dog called Ricky, a black and white terrier that we bought from Bob Grove's Pet Shop in Tib Street, Manchester.  A magical place that we visited a lot.  He always had puppies and kittens in his window and in the side window he had tortoises.  Bob, a small bald man with cross eyes and always greeted us when we came in.  Dad's beat was round there and he often called in for a cup of tea.  

I chose Ricky my self and in Wellington Road he became King of the neighbourhood.

We would let him out when ever he asked and he would roam the area as if he owned it.  Outside the kitchen of Moira's house there was a mound of earth. 

Ricky would position himself  on top of it and bark until he got her attention.  She would open the window and throw him scraps.  She was very fond of Ricky.

One day, Simon and I came out of our drive on our bicycles and Ricky was waiting for us. 

He barked and then ran forward, he came back to us barked again and ran on.  He seemed to want us to follow him, so we did and he led us to the top of our road. 

 There was nothing to see except Moira, and a man and his van.  We were just about to go back when Moira called to us.

 She told us that the man with her had knocked over Sally.  Sally was our young collier puppy who never went out on her own. 

So we raced back home and found Sally under the dining table, she was unhurt but trembling. We didn't know she had even escaped.

The final thing I remember about my days in Whalley Range was walking to church along Withington Road to the congregation church at the bottom and passing the donkey field on the right. 

I've been back and the Donkey field is now school playing fields and the church is now an Asian church hardly resembling what it once was.

 

 

 

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